While openSUSE community is preparing to release openSUSE 11.2 in the next month, I decided to discover what's new in openSUSE 11.2. I downloaded the RC1 image and started playing with it. In short, it is fast, stable and beautiful. I think the decision to move to 8 months release is a wise decision. It gives more time to build and test the software. But the most exciting decision is putting KDE as the default desktop environment. OpenSUSE 11.2 is the best KDE distribution (IMHO).
In this post I will review the most 10 important features in the default openSUSE 11.2 desktop:
1- Linux 2.6.31 kernel
Linux 2.6.31 kernel is the latest version of Linux kernel. It was released on 9 September, 2009. It brings tons and tons of new features and bugs fixing. You can check this article to see what's new in this version. Most upcoming distributions will ship this version.
For openSUSE 11.1 users, be ready to jump from the version 2.6.27 to 2.6.31. So many things happened in these four releases. Linux becomes faster, more secure and has more built-in drivers. Moreover, openSUSE (or I should say Novell) developers paid a special attention to the netbook market.
2- Ext4 filesystem
Like most distributions, the default filesystem in openSUSE 11.2 will be Ext4. Ext4 is the successor of the most used Linux filesystem, Ext3. It brings a lot of features and better performance compared to Ext3. You can find more details about Ext4 here.
3- Live upgrade
For the first time officially, openSUSE will support live upgrade in the same manner of Debian's dist-upgrade. This feature “ has a powerful psychological impact at the Enterprise level and a much more tangible impact at the small user / single user level”. According to the feature page, “The rationale for pursuing this is to revoke the special status of coolness this functionality gives Ubuntu, and to terminate the negative influence that may have on our SLE sales (from the expert's opinion, the preference then easily spills into purchasing).”.
The bad news is it does not have a graphical tool and does suffer from many bugs.
4- YaST revamp
In OpenSUSE 11.2, YaST (the control center) has been ported from Qt 3 to the shiny Qt4. The new things are:
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There are Novell AppArmor modules by default.
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The virtualization module is ready to install.
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Modules are searched (filtered) as you type in the search field.
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The partitioner module has seen many user interface improvements. It also gained RAID6 and RAID10 support.
5- YaST web interface
OpenSUSE 11.2 will ship a technology preview of the web interface of YaST. The objective of YaST web interface is to enable remote 1:1 management of a machine. It is built using Ruby on Rail framework.
When I try to test it, I get an error. Further work is required to make it usable.
Login page of Web YaST
6- Improved software management
The software management has been improved vastly in openSUSE 11.2. First Zypper (the backend to control packages) gets an enhancement for download reliability. Second, now you can download all packages first before installing them. Third, the layout of the user interface has been improved as you can see in the screenshot below.
Finally, you can search within all known openSUSE build-service and openSUSE community repositories using "Webpin package search". I like it because it is more convenient than using a browser for that task. By the way, I like "1-Click Install " button.
New Layout of software managment
Keep downloaded packages option
7- KDE 4.3
My lovely desktop will get a big improvement in the next openSUSE release. It will come with the latest version of KDE 4.3. According to release announcement of KDE 4.3, “The KDE community has fixed over 10,000 bugs and implemented almost 2,000 feature requests in the last 6 months. Close to 63,000 changes were checked in by a little under 700 contributors.”. Well done KDE developers.
I've used KDE 4.3 on openSUSE 11.1 (thanks build service) since release day. It is stable and crash free ( maybe I exaggerate a little bit ). Most important KDE3 applications have been ported to KDE4.
8- KDE/Firefox integration
The most annoying thing when you use Firefox in KDE desktop is the lack of integration (File dialogs, default programs, notification system, and proxy settings). OpenSUSE developers have worked hard to make sure that Firefox will behave like KDE application. See the proof in the video:
By the way, openSUSE 11.2 will ship OpenOffice 3.1 with KDE integration.
9- Wonderful Art works
I must admit that the art work in openSUSE 11.2 is amazing. Have a look at boot screen, login manager, Air theme and finally the wallpaper, to judge yourself. OpenSUSE comes with few wallpaper because you can get hundreds of wallpapers online using "Get Hot New Stuff" from KDE.
Boot Splash
Login screen
The Desktop
Get New Wallpaper Online
10- Social desktop
OpenSUSE 11.2 comes with a lot of programs that support social networks (i.e. Twitter, Facebook, ...etc). Firefox is the king in the area. But if you do not like the default webbased interfaces, you can use other applications like:
- Choqok: New KDE twitter and identi.ca client.
- Kopete: The KDE client now has additional support for Facebook IM protocol.
- Social plasmoids: KDE 4.3 comes with plasmoids for Twitter/identi.ca and openDesktop.
I found your blog on google
Ellen Barnes (not verified) on Wed, 02/03/2010 - 22:55I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my reader.
opensuse 11.2 KDE 3.5
Michal Papis (not verified) on Wed, 02/03/2010 - 05:21Now you can use newest opensuse 11.2 with kde 3.5 http://niczsoft.com/2010/02/opensuse-11_2-kde-3_5/
Six weeks out, 11.2 is a rock compared to other distros
zaine_ridling (not verified) on Wed, 12/30/2009 - 05:49I've spent the last three weeks installing, testing, and wrecking various distros on purpose among three machines of various ages.
- Ubuntu/Kubuntu had the most bugs and the most aggravation with KDE;
- Fedora is quite good (every other release);
- Mandriva/Mepis/Mint are fine but doesn't run on some hardware;
- sidux is a solid little KDE distro that many should consider over Ubuntu;
But openSUSE is hands down the best as Zayed's review and my tests show. It's excellent installation routine along with its strong partition abilities get you off to a good start. More emphasis should be put on reading the Release Notes immediately after installation, however. There you will find information you'll need to work around any issues. Repositories are easily found on the openSUSE site, and yes, its implementation of KDE is by far the most polished. openSUSE also automatically places your /home folder on a separate partition, which allows you to freely install and test other distros or OSes without touching your data and settings.
If you haven't seen Linux in a year or two, check out openSUSE. You'll be surprised how far desktop Linux has come in such a short time.
You guys are on drug or
Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 12/13/2009 - 13:39You guys are on drug or something?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or, you just installed ... looked around .... NICE ... OK, let's install another dist???
http://www.benmccann.com/dev-blog/opensuse-11-2-setup-and-review/
Sure, its good - but how is
Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 12/07/2009 - 13:01Sure, its good - but how is it better than Fedora? KDE 4.3 is flawless there too.
OpenSUSE 11.2 is good
Deb (not verified) on Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:37Good release. Although i have come across some bugs during package updates myself - no showstoppers. I use GNOME & i think even OpenSUSE GNOME is good-looking. Very stable & very secure distro. Just need to work on the performance aspect a little bit and also on CPU heat issues ; with the advent of netbooks. They are cutting edge.
So Pretty
pThomas (not verified) on Sat, 11/14/2009 - 20:36SUSE is so pretty, we use CENTos for our servers and suse for the workstations and SUSE is very attractive and mordern OS.
We talk about RC1
DaLonge (not verified) on Thu, 11/05/2009 - 13:20Sometimes I don't understand you!
How can be a RC version a favourite distro.
It's out for testing.And why AMD or Nvidia should build there drivers for something witch isn't out yet.
I use (open)suse now since 9.1 and I tried a lot of other distros like deb,(k)ubuntu or gentoo. I watch and help if possible in kde and packman mailing lists (and I have to say thank's to those hardworking people).
So I installed 11.2 on my Laptop (before there was 11.1 with kde4.3) and what should I say all is working fine and all the programs I need for my work was working out of the box(network).
So I have to say great job done and thanks for this nice looking and easy to install version of Linux.
So in one or two weeks I'll start for install it on my home
desktop an on the computers of my friends an family.
nvidia drivers
scatterzone (not verified) on Sun, 11/01/2009 - 11:24i tried building them but failed miserably,Opensuse is my fav KDE distro,too bad NVIDIA drivers are not yet available by 1click. But still the interface is clean and the new artwork is good,and not to forget its sooooo stable,still amarok has some problems,i guess they would be addressed.
OT,I tried kubuntu 9.10,and i have to admit that opensuse 11.2 RC1(which i tried) is lot more stable than kubuntu stable release(whaaaaaaaaaat),and also the artwork,cant exactly say what aspect,i like opensuse.
I have had great luck using
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 10:49I have had great luck using nvidias installer.
may need to use beta nvidia driver
oldcpu (not verified) on Sat, 11/07/2009 - 13:43The proprietary (beta, and later final) nvidia driver worked fine on my sandbox PC with openSUSE-11.2 RC2 (and previous 11.2 development versions), where my card is a nVidia GeForce FX5200. That beta is now released as a final: "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.20-pkg1.run". Note that RC2 is a DEVELOPMENT openSUSE release, and hence the "one-click" for the graphic drivers is not available for a development openSUSE release. Development releases are intended for testing by those who know enough to install the driver using the Nvidia installation program. There is guidance here for the proprietary driver install for the development release: http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA/The_hard_way
One can read here to see what are the most current nVidia graphic versions available: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122606
KDE/Firefox integration
Livio (not verified) on Sun, 11/01/2009 - 03:30Pure pleasure to see how well is the job done.
I love new Firefox integration with KDE4. Notifications could be better but for such a short time - wonderful job.
And you deserve these words.
Few Clarifications
RobOpenSuSE (not verified) on Fri, 10/30/2009 - 05:17Secure graphical Upgrade is available by booting from CD or DVD and choosing upgrade option.
Live upgrade is via the "zypper dup" command, having updated the repositories to a new version of OpenSuSE. Upgrading the release under a GUI a working system, would mean changes to glibc, ld.so and the kernel, as well as X and the GUI desktop, that could mean inconsistencies which cause the window application running the "zypper dup" to fail.
Many complaining about proprietary drivers, seem to be unaware that FOSS alternatives exist, which are good enough for testing of RC1.
Adobe flash is not distributed by OpenSuSE, a dummy package pulls in the player, unlike Nvidia and ATI it does not require a kernel driver built against updated kernel.
An aim is to make OpenSUSE redistributable by anyone, so including proprietary code would stop that, a download via repository post-installation is similar to situation facing ´dows users so ought not cause such hand waving!
Database front-end "Rekall"
nicari (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 07:42"Most KDE applications have been ported to KDE4".
This is certainly true. However, one KDE application is specially important to me: the database front-end "Rekall".
It has disappeared from the repository, but it can still be downloaded from the openSUSE web page. After installing it, it does not run. Any attempt to compile it myself also does not work. It appears to me that it has not been ported to KDE4 (yet).
Does anyone know whether this is being ported and will be available again in the not too distant future?
I guess you need to contact
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 14:02I guess you need to contact theKompany or rekallrevealed seems nothing has happened to it since 2005
Rekall
nicari (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 22:10That appears to be correct. I checked the Rekall mailing list and found that Mike Richardson, the developer, last posted on 23-Nov-07.
In 2009 there were only about 16 messages posted, the large majority of them in January. I am really worried, and wonder what is happening.
KMS
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 01:10does opensue do KMS?
If you mean Kernel Mode
Zayed on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 05:48If you mean Kernel Mode Setting, then yes it support it for any driver that support it.
an actual comment
carolinason (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 00:35it's almost like no one can have a review without tantrums in the comments.
i used to run suse (i actually bought the releases at compusa) and liked it. i hear kde 4 is fine tuned in this distro, which is good to hear.
yast has always bugged me and i'm not up to yum, which has always been a bit buggy to me or so slow it couldn't be used. perhaps these inconveniences have been improved upon and the release will offer a smoother experience than i've been used to.
good luck
have fun use linux
I'd switch, but..
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 00:15If only openSuse didn't use rpm, I'd switch today. I really dislike rpm package management. Other than that I everything else is pretty good.
Sure, its good - but how is
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 11:28Sure, its good - but how is it better than Fedora? KDE 4.3 is flawless there too.
Sure, the web based YaST is interesting but I don't think that is anything particularly fancy. SSH works great for me, and you can already use yast (curses version) through ssh.
If you use KDE control center you don't need yast2 anyway.
I think OpenSuSE is a good distro (better than Ubuntu) don't get me wrong. I just don't seem to feel that it is anything to be particularly excited about where as Fedora always has the great bleeding edge stuff, with good defaults to fall back on.
Sure its good-but how is...
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/28/2009 - 20:40I like both OpenSuse and Fedora; however, I find that Fedora isn't as stable nor as manageable as OpenSuse. Even the simplest task in Fedora can go awry. Fedora 10 was a great OS, but for the life of me I can't get Flash to install correctly in Fedora 11. It's annoying little show stoppers like that that keep me from adopting Fedora as my distro of choice.
I have never had the issues with OpenSuse nor for that matter Ubuntu that I have had with Fedora. It's obvious to me that Red Hat only wants Fedora to be a developers OS.
Just my point of view. Red Hat could learn a thing or two from Novell.
Yast2 is more complet than
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 16:56Yast2 is more complet than KDE's SystemSettings. Try if before talk about it.
what about FireFox
Zayed on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 11:32what about FireFox integration? Another thing Yast not equal KDE control center :)
openSUSE is getting better
Eric Yeoh (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 07:25For those who whine how bad openSUSE is, please do note that this essentially free as in beer/tea/coffee and is speech distro. Many in the community have contributed a lot of time and effort to make this great. If you need closed source drivers or stuff, go and just do a little download, read the instructions and install them.
After all Windows users do that always. Are we GNU/Linux users so papered that everything must work automagically out of the box/CD/USB?
I have openSUSE 11.1 installed on my netbook which has the notorious Broadcom wifi, and after some Googling I found the answer.
I have always believed that if we need to whine, at least do it constructively and to the right people. Submit a bug report to http://bugzilla.novell.com. Let the devels know of the issue.
Blaberring in a forum ain't gonna get your stuff resolved.
Don't mean to upset anyone. But if we want to make openSUSE or any distro good for the world, do it in a constructive way.
Agree with you on
Zayed on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 10:12Agree with you on constructive criticism. But drivers need testing heavily. What's the point to release them after the official release?
drivers ARE available for testing
oldcpu (not verified) on Sat, 11/07/2009 - 13:47The drivers are available before the GM (compatible with the milestone/RCx releases), but they are NOT packaged for 1-click install before the GM. IMHO even AFTER the GM release, there are superior ways to install than the "one-click", but the "one-click" IS still made available (after the GM release) for those who wish to install apps via that method.
The best Linux Distribution edges closer
RichardLinx (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 04:33Nice little preview there. I'm looking forward to this release.
Restricted drivers
Minton (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 00:08C'mon, guys, don't you know that restricted drivers are packaged by Novell but kept on manufacturers' sites only for stable releases, NOT for Factory ones. All restricted drivers will be available after official release with no problem at all. Peace ))
what's the point of release
Zayed on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 10:06what's the point of release RC1 and you can not test it in your hardware? How we can test the quality of the driver before final release?
I think they should provide the driver at least in the RC stage to test them on a real use by the community.
Myself, I filed 3 bugs after before I post this review. Two of them have been already fixed. I can not test something that does not exist.
drivers ARE are available for testing
oldcpu (not verified) on Sat, 11/07/2009 - 13:50The drivers ARE available for testing.
This is more a question of testing the packaging and NOT testing the driver. Given how frequent a kernel changes during the development, the effort would be excessive to setup a "one click" for every development release, just to test the packaging.
For example, in the case of graphics (nVidia and ATI) if one wishes to test the driver, then one simply has to run the nvidia installer or ati installer, as document on their sites. The driver CAN be tested.
Nice article
oldcpu (not verified) on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 23:59Nice review. Thanks. I have openSUSE-11.1 on 7 PCs in our family, and on a sandbox PC I have been playing with openSUSE-11.2 during the milestone updates, and now also with 11.2 RC1.
I am looking forward to 11.2.
The 2.6.31 kernel with openSUSE-11.2 will provide improvements, such as
* USB-3.0,
* some speed/memory improvements, boot speed improvements
* improved drivers (better wifi support, bloothooth, ... )
* improved files system support (such as ext4, btrfs , encryped )
* improved ATI radeon kernel mode setting (KMS) support
* improved alsa/oss support (SB X-Fi, ... etc .. )
* new kernel debugging features
* other improved hardware support
* improved virtualization (KVR)
* improved drivers (graphics, scsi, sata, network/wifi, sound, usb, bluetooth ... )
I recall reading that including the 2.6.31 kernel was only done after a lot of internal debate to the openSUSE community, as its release was quite late in the 11.2 distribution packaging process.
11.2 also provides Gnome-2.28 with its
* better social network client interfaces (facebook, twitter, Identi.ca, .. )
* new windowing and user interface (Sonar)
* various bug fixes
* Epiphany web browser switch from Geckto to WebKit
* new Bluetooth module
As you noted, 11.2 provides a more stable KDE4:
* includes better social network client interfaces (twitter,Identi.ca .. )
* improved Kmail
* firefox default browser
* improvements to plasmoids
* many bug fixes for improved stability.
Note KDE-3.5.10 is not included in 11.2. This was also not without debate, but from what I read in the end it was deemed better to put resources assigned to KDE3 on to KDE4. I note many of the other major distributions have long since dropped KDE3. I have also read of one user who still managed to install KDE-3.5.10 on 11.2 RC1 via appropriate repository selection. That suggests it is possible we may see a community produced live CD of 11.2 with KDE-3.5.10, much like we have of 11.1. http://en.opensuse.org/Live_CD
As you noted, 11.2 provides
* Ext4 file system (by default)
* Hybrid ISO's to install openSUSE from USB
* significantly improved software package management. Long since gone are the fiasco 10.1 days.
In Addition, 11.2 provides
* Newer application versions (firefox, openoffice, amarok, digikam, k3b, konversation, gimp, ... )
* Encyrption more feasible
* Semi-Auto graphic card detection/use [IMHO this is one of the biggest changes experienced openSUSE users will note]
In 11.2 the LiveCDs are to have more language, and packaged with printing drivers (as opposed to download needed).
Its been a relative long time waiting for 11.2, and its looking like this long time between releases has been put to good use.
I am very optimistic about 11.2.
very nice summary of openSUSE
Zayed on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 10:12very nice summary of openSUSE 11.2.
NOT!!!!!
Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 08:18The title is SO NOT true! There are so many things that make Opensuse NOT anywhere close to perfect that I don't know where to start!
NOT!!!
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/28/2009 - 22:57I hope you will go back to Windows and let us alone!
Unless you are prepared to
TonyY (not verified) on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 11:14Unless you are prepared to explain/justify your statement,your one liner is simply a spoiler and can be disregarded as such.
As a matter of fact, I spent quite a time in confrontation with GreyGeek - whom I may add I respect enormously both for his computer ability and academia - over KDE4.1. We had a very strong difference of opinion and at one stage I am sure he thought I was merely out to FUD and damage KDE....but I wasn't. I wanted certain characteristics in a window manager that made it easy for me to use......
I want to report that GreyGeek's confidence has been amply justified in KDE4.3. I downloaded openSUSE11.2's CD of KDE and ran it as a live cd......I am delighted and amazed at what I found and I also now recommend it very highly for consideration. There may still be bugs (Win7 already has a security level 4 problem), but KDE is ongoing. KDE4.3 is smooth, elegant, it can behave in a way that will make any KDE3.5 user drool with anticipation and I am looking forward very much to using it. Even on a live CD, KDE4.3 on openSUSE11.2 was smooth, 3D effects just happened if you switched them on, the folder view could be made to work just like a KDE3.5 desktop (yes, I know it isn't, but it can behave in a similar fashion) so it seems familiar; I can have my traditional menu (thankyou team), and really, it is now just a matter of trialling out the manager - but I no longer have doubts I will swap over - and soon. The colours and effects are elegant, the fonts beautiful and even on a live CD, it was running fairly quickly.
In case you hadn't noticed......I like it .......lots. And GreyGeek, wherever you are, I hope you get to see this and accept my compliments for persevering with me. TY Australia.
I agree
Barbara (not verified) on Thu, 10/29/2009 - 08:35Very graceful concessions there TonyY. I remember that thread on Linux Today. I love KDE 4.3 and I love OpenSUSE. Can't wait for 11.2.
Barbara, also Australia.
Please elaborate your
Zayed on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 09:55Please elaborate your opinion.
O.M.G
Arab (not verified) on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 20:36that's mean that i can't use opensuse 11.2 in my lenovo n200 laptop (nvidia 7300 GO ) ??
Live upgrade
glyj (not verified) on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 12:32Hi,
The reviewer says there isn't any graphical live upgrade available and it is quite buggy.
I suggest you to try Mandriva.
I consider the distro to be THE KDE distro while providing a graphical live upgrade since two releases already.
regards,
glyj
ps: More about the last developpment release:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_RC_2
20 Features in Mandriva 2010
Fahad on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:0420 Features in Mandriva 2010 ( here at LinuxCrunch ).
Absolutely, The best KDE
Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 06:28Absolutely, The best KDE distro out there. One of the easiest Linux distros to use, their control panel is awesome, their attention to detail makes the whole distro clean and easy to use. And all their added features work the same no matter that desktop you choose, KDE GNOME LXE. Many of these "new features other distros are just now adding have been in Mandriva for awhile. Mandriva has always been great at creating an up to date easy to use system
the art work and firefox
Zayed on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 09:58the art work and firefox integration are the main things drift me away from Mandriava.
I agree Mandriva does not do
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 01:13I agree Mandriva does not do any justice to the artwork in KDE instead they replace it for something that is plain bad.
But it lacks Firefox/KDE
Zayed on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 14:00But it lacks Firefox/KDE integration ! Moreover, they use GTK+ for their control panel.
The mandriva control panel is
glyj (not verified) on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 21:41The mandriva control panel is really great with the ability to run in a terminal with ncurses....GTK+ is not so bad, even in a KDE environment.
I launch very oftently GTK apps under KDE (and vice-versa) and there is nothing wrong with that.
In mandriva I feel this is better because the apps behave & look the same under the two wm's (KDE&GNOME) and also under XFCE. And I run GNOME on some machines, XFCE on other and KDE on other ones....
About the KDE integration, there is a knew graphical theme that is coming up.... I hope this will improve....
regards
glyj.
Sadly they'll keep the IaOra
Beno@ (not verified) on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 15:41Sadly they'll keep the IaOra theme that looks so bad under KDE beacuase they didn't have time to create a new one...
They should just use OXYGEN.
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 01:15They should just use OXYGEN.
Thanks
SinaR on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 08:55Thanks
Repo's Still Don't Have 11.2 Restricted Drivers!
Embedded (not verified) on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 23:06I am writing this from openSuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5X desktop. KDE 4 does not suck as badly on openSuSE 11.2 so is fairly good but oddly enough I still like KDE 3.5X better.
What does suck is the lack of real world machine install capability in the repo's for 11.2. Nvidia 7150 drivers are not to be found and more obviously broadcom BCM4322 drivers are not to be found. Yes they are in the repo's for 11.1 but not to be found for 11.2 (and any I found tell yast "not for this version") unlike kubuntu and ubuntu that offer up restricted drivers.
So don't bother to try and install openSuSE 11.2 RC1 on a laptop yet. You cannot because the closed drivers are not yet available. It works fine on virtualbox. While the k/ubuntu's work fine on real world exquipment.
Joe Brockmeier are you listening!
It's ok for you folks to do a deal with Micro$oft add Flash and Acrobat but not put the most popular restricted drivers in a repo in Germany? (Where there is no DMCA.)
Here I am an openSuSE user pissed because my favourite distro 11.2 RC1 still cannot be installed on any of my laptops!
Cheers John