KDE SC 4.5 is in feature freeze right now. Therefore, I decide to share some of early screenshots with you. In General there are no major changes. It is all about polishing and fixing bugs. There is a lot of under-hood changes in libs which as enduser we cannot see. KDE SC will be release in August 2010. Now I will let you enjoy the screenshots.
This is the default desktop (see the beautiful icons in system-tray ).
The notifications
Plasma Calendar integrates with PIM.
New Activity manager
System Settings has been reordered
New keyboard control module
New Windows Decorations control module
New KinfoCenter
Tiling the Windows.
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Love KDE
Michael (not verified) on Sat, 06/05/2010 - 05:09I love KDE. It's the one desktop environment I've found that I can show all the eye-candy and wow even Mac fans. Most people I show it to ask me how they can get it on their computers. I've converted several people to Linux that way. None of the people I converted were particularly tech savy, but they all still love it. I only needed to spend half an hour teaching them to use kpackagekit and what not. All of the easy customizability is nice too.
I look forward to a hopefully more stable and bug freeer (yes, I know freeer probably isn't a real word) KDE 4.5 because that's the thing I think KDE needs the most at this point.
Distros destroy KDE
Vamp898 (not verified) on Thu, 06/03/2010 - 18:00Most KDE Problems are not from KDE itself. There are a lot of stupid distros out there who just destroy KDE (Kubuntu, SuSE).
If you use a Distro like Archlinux, Chakra or Gentoo you won´t have real problems at all.
On Archlinux it runs (KDE 4.4.4) with a memory usage of about 100mb on my Netbook which have 512mb of memory.
It runs fast and i have no problems. So stop giving the fault and mistakes of Distros back to KDE. Its not there fault that people are to stupid to package the stuff.
Plaslet widgmoids
Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 23:32None of the widgets are any good, are they? They haven't changed much since the glory days of KDE 4.0.
I quite like Dolphin, but I use it in GNOME, which does not crash.
Horrible recycle bin
Binman (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 19:56I won't be happy until they fix the horrible Recycle Bin icon.
Surely Nuno's worst yet.
Many improvements
Quentin MaLarky (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 18:56I see they still have the tumour-like cashew lurking in the corner. They keep it up there as a reminder that Aaron Seigo hates us all.
Have they managed to stop plasma from crashing every five minutes yet? How about the analogue clock? Have they made the hands different lengths yet? Is is possible yet to adjust the panel without a system reboot? Is is now possible to zoom in again once we zoom out to the activities?
I am glad they have got rid of the strange rectangle decorations everywhere.
I am very worried they might reappear again one day.
Final Doom
Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 23:58I think the KDE devs know the game is up. KDE 4 is a zombie project, mindlessly shambling from one release to the next.
It is of little interest except to the KDE devs themselves.
The KDE devs should stop pretending that everything is rosy in the garden. It's not right.
wow
GNOM (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 08:00awesome :) i love it
kde
big_d (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 17:54i want to use KDE, but it became too bloated:( 3.5* was great. keep it simple ppl, some of us want clear desktop.. even windows 7 can look like windows xp.
Yeah, I abandoned KDE when it
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 20:40Yeah, I abandoned KDE when it became clear that they had no interest in accomodating KDE3 users and existing KDE3 functionality. When you refer to missing features from a previous release as 'wishlist' instead of actually as bugs, that's denigrating your user base.
Been with GNOME after trying real hard to live with XFCE ever since, only thing I miss is konqi and the "run command" panel widget that would take konqi shortcuts (man:/perl pops up perl manpage, gg:search term searches google for 'search term', etc..)
hmmm
jospoortvliet (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 13:58You can run konqi and even krunner from within a gnome desktop, maybe that'll make you happier ;-)
About the 3.5 features, we've always said we WANTED to bring pretty much all of them back, but simply didn't have the resources to do it. Now we're pretty much there. What I don't understand is ppl moving to Gnome from KDE 3.5 because 4.x doesn't have the features of 3.5... Gnome doesn't either, it's way behind 4.5 in that regard. So how does that help? Did it really hurt that much that we didn't have the manpower to handle all these old features and had to focus on the most important ones first? Should we have delayed the release by another 4 or 5 years, cope with the diminishing number of developers and become another enlightenment rather than keep to the FOSS mantra of 'release early, release often'?
Great work guys
nvivo (not verified) on Sat, 05/29/2010 - 02:57I don't see what people complain so much about. From KDE 4.0 until 4.2, I admit I was upset, and I tried to use Gnome. I really put an effort there... and I came to realize that it simply sucks in functionality and appearance.
My life really improved after I ditched Kubuntu in favor of Archlinux, and suddenly I didn't have all those problems with KDE anymore. Most of the crashes were due to Kubuntu outdated/buggy packages (don't know how it is today). Since 4.3, I have been really happy with KDE 4 again.
I have been using it for my daily work for more than 1 year. The features are there, and I don't think there are any showstoppers. I really prefer the new stuff coming from KDE4 than the stagnation that is Gnome. Great work guys!
Looking good
AnonymousUnixFaggot (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 14:52I've been traditionally disliking these multimedia rich desktop environments (gnome, KDE, enlightenment, XFCE) and been a fan of lightweight and keyboard usability focused window managers such as pwm, ion, wmii, window maker etc.
Last weekend my desktop computer broke (it's sporting Windows XP because some audio software that is not available for other OSs). I use that desktop for my start-up company project too, so I had to come up with a replacement fast and continue working.
Thus I did something that I've never done to my own computers. I've wanted to try how KDE 4 would feel, and didn't have too much time setting up the new system this time, so I decided to ditch my old habit of configuring very minimal debian system by hand and give kubuntu a try.
I have to say that I'm very impressed how fast and usable the new KDE is! There are some bugs, like randomly changing theming of the task bar and power management control that I can't disable (it doesn't happen when I uncheck the radio box), but overall it's been very nice experience.
I'm running it on my IBM ThinkPad X41 and it's fast enough to do the composition too in such a speed that it's not annoying at all. Of course the process list has around 100 extra processes to what I'm used to (over 200 in total), but system remains responsive and it's a pleasure to use. I like the widgets a lot, helps to have all important info and notes on the desktop that I can simply view from any workspace by pressing a custom key combination to show the desktop.
Looking good, KDE! Keep up the great work you're doing!
KDE 4 RULEZ!
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 12:41Windoze vista 7 is playing catch up with KDE 4. Windoze vista 7 is a rip-off of KDE 4.
Actually KDE4 is a rip-off of
Ken Ham (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 20:31Actually KDE4 is a rip-off of Windows Vista, check the dates Vista came first.
Funny how all you Freetards were simultaneously slagging Vista off and copying it at the same time.
By that standard, Vista is a
Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 05:15By that standard, Vista is a rip-off of Xerox Palo Alto Research Center's GUI. Check the dates. PARC's came first. Funny how the trolls were simultaneously slagging GUIs off and copying them at the same time.
DeJa Vu - Not just for fonts any more!
No, not by my standards it's not
Ken Ham (not verified) on Mon, 05/31/2010 - 10:54Except Vista looks nothing like Xerox PARC's interface, except for the parts that it's unavoidable to copy when building a windowed OS.
So Freetard, which part of Windows Vista was, like Xerox PARC's OS, so revolutionary that it had to be included in KDE4?
I'm picking on KDE4 because it superficially looks like Windows 7, not just because it's a windowed interface with a mouse and stuff. So no not, "By that standard" at all.
Not a ripoff
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 23:21Stuff like Google Gadgets existed long before Windows and Macintosh added native support for Widgets into their desktop. Plasma, OTOH, redesigned the entire desktop and associated libraries, rather than just building on top of an old design. What was and still is a ripoff was only the default theme. The technology is original.
Windows 7 had these system
Silver (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 12:45Windows 7 had these system tray icons first :P
RiscOS had system tray icons
Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 05:12RiscOS had system tray icons before Windows had a system tray. So?
I'm not speaking about ANY
Silver (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 10:25I'm not speaking about ANY system tray icons, but icons that look the same :P
KDE 4 IS AWESOME!
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 12:39If you don't like KDE 4, DON'T use KDE 4 then! Nobody is forcing you to you it!
That's right, most people
Ken Ham (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 20:30That's right, most people won't be using KDE4, that doesn't stop anyone from coming on here and pointing out how shitty it is.
Telling people not to use it also doesn't detract from its deficiencies, it's a -- rather pathetic -- way of shutting down criticism. Another reason why the 'Linux desktop' has less than 1% market share.
Hi to all. :-) It's
fri (not verified) on Wed, 06/23/2010 - 00:16Hi to all. :-)
It's interesting - I met similar kind of argumentation on other Linux websites, in other languages. So I would like to ask, whether you have some kind of training in summer camp in Redmond. :-D
The results are bringing many people into good mood, and fun coming with this culture-wisdom-philosophy-marketing-PR is spreading. :-D
Hi again and good luck to your lives
Was it meant to me? I did not
Silver (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 12:45Was it meant to me? I did not say I don't like it. I like it very much, but I don't like the new changes coming from Windows 7 :P
new system tray icons
Silver (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 11:54Um.. why did you clone windows 7 system tray icons? They look awful, like a 10-year step backwards. So far I used to make fun of Win7 system tray icons, but they will be on my KDE desktop too.. ah crap.
They look much better imho.
Lee (not verified) on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 19:13They look much better imho. They look cleaner, less distracting and professional.
lolWhat?!
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 06/16/2010 - 20:53First of all, project longhorn (ie Vista) was in production for quite a long time. So long that they had to stop and release XP Service Pack 3, something they originally were not planning on doing.
At around that point, Longhorn got changed drastically. They wanted to make an engine which could compete with OSX's eye appeal, and that they did. KDE4 was also being started on around this time period, which decided to also try and emulate the visual appeal of OSX, but wanted to also find away to deal with the kicker/kdesktop problem (lots of dead code and the absence of developers to work on it). So the plasma project was born, wanting to allows widget support similar to OSX and Google Gadgets like what Super Karamba did (long before vista :P) but in a way that the widgets could move easily between panel and desktop and such. To do this, they created the panel as a plasma widget itself, one that could hold other widgets and interact with other widgets. This is not a feature shared by Vista or 7. It's black look, however may have been largely influenced by Vista, but I doubt Air was influenced by 7.
Then there are activities, window grouping and such, nothing of which is present in Vista or 7. 7 does have the new 'snap', which may have predated kde4's similar feature.. not to sure there, but neither have tiling support that kde4.5 now supports (which is where this 'snap-like' feature was headed). Activies themselves, and the whole desktop design is done to break away from the 20+ year old idea of a desktop and provide an environment that works for the user and not the user having to adjust to the environment. There are so many ways to work 'activites' that is is simply astonishing, and is now being copied somewhat by GnomeSHELL, but not to be found in vista/7 which still use the tried and true old 20+ year idea of what a desktop is.
And now you want to say that systray in kde4 is copied from 7? First of all, there is no longer a systray, persay in kde4.5. It now is simply running on dbus, and is available through the freedesktop initative for all desktop environments. dbus is supposed to provide a better and more cohesive way of dealing with things that you would normally just through into systray, and may resemble systray, but it is so much more than that. So if you are trying to suggest that kde4.5's 'dbus tray' is copied from 7's systray, I have to only ask, have you tried kde 4.5 beta(2) yet? Do you have any idea how it works and functions, differently from 7? Or are you just shooting off because all of the sudden it is merged in so well with plasma, like 7 is merged in with taskbar, so you want to assume that it is copied from 7?
Will this continue to be
e-d0uble (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 07:38Will this continue to be laggy, even on modern systems? I can't understand why kde4 has always been so damn laggy, and continues to be. My laptop has 8G of RAM, a 7200 RPM drive, and a video card with 1G of video RAM and kde4 is still dragging, even at version 4.4.3.. I turned off all these stupid "compositing" effects, as they have always been unstable and slow and still the windowmanager is slow. Sure I still run it, as I can't stand gnome, and other windowmanagers.. but really... Does this thing have to be such a turtle?
Some people blame Nvidia's drivers, some blame "the devs".. frankly I don't care.. I just want this to run quickly like kde3 used to. Is that asking too much? What hardware are these developers running? When I see videos of kde4 running quickly, what are the users running?
I have no idea if it will
jospoortvliet (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 14:02I have no idea if it will continue to be laggy. We're working on improving performance as much as we can, and like 4.4, 4.5 will be a big step over the previous version. But we'll always be tied by the limitations of the underlying platform. Unfortunately KDE applications perform better on windows than on linux - despite us trying to optimize for lin. As you say, yes, the graphical stack and other things on linux really suck. We can do two things - do less and stop pushing it (eg giving up) or hope they'll fix it. Sorry about that...
Speedy Conzalis!
Abe (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 17:16You either are "Speedy Gonzalez" or you have the wrong drivers/configurations. Also, the laggardness could be due to upgrading from pretty old system and your configurations are sort of stale. If you have a separate "home" partition, it is very easy to do a fresh install and I believe you should see big improvement. If you don't have a separate partition, make one and then upgrade.
IBM x31: 1.6GHz Pentium-M;
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 14:17IBM x31: 1.6GHz Pentium-M; 1GB RAM; 32MB Radeon with no 3d acceleration; Funtoo; KDE 4.3.5
Custom PC: 2.6GHz C2D; 4GB DDR2; Nvidia 8800Gt; Funtoo; KDE-4.4.3
Both work amazingly well, obviously with the IBM running without compositing.
buy a real computer then
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 13:44If your computer doesn't work with GNU/Linux then you should get one that does... even allot of companies that supposedly tailor to the GNU/Linux crowd don't design for GNU/Linux. The trick is to go with one that does. ThinkPenguin is the only one in the USA that I know does. Open-pc.com is another in Europe that does too I believe.
There is no such OS as
Tommy.S (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 16:17There is no such OS as GNU/Linux. GNU Development tools and system software does not belong to the operating system. GNU project has their own OS called HURD. Use that if you want to be so GNU fanatic but do not call Linux as Microkernel!
WRONG! GNU/Linux is an
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 18:30WRONG!
GNU/Linux is an operating system (Linux being the kernel, and GNU providing most of the userspace utilities...the two combined making a complete Free and open source operating system).
GNU HURD is just an alternative kernel developed by GNU that could be used in place of Linux.
If you're going to be a technical Nazi, at least get your facts right.
How come GNU can be so
jospoortvliet (not verified) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 14:03How come GNU can be so arrogant as to claim it delivers most of the userspace infrastructure? Xorg & KDE are far larger than the GNU tools... Call it Linux/Xorg/KDE then... Or stop the sillyness and call it linux.
* by design for GNU/Linux they shouldn't use non-free chipsets
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 13:48* System76, Dell, LinuxCertified, EmperorLinux and just about every other company just puts out systems designed for MS Windows with GNU/Linux rather than designing systems for GNU/Linux. Most of the above though aren't forcing the MS tax on you though... at least. EmporerLinux being the exception.
Dude, your system definitely
lynix (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 11:27Dude, your system definitely suffers from bad configuration or bad drivers.
KDE SC 4.4 runs perfectly smooth here on my NETBOOK (Atom N270, Intel Integrated GMA, 1GB RAM), even when enabling some compositing! :)
WorksForMe™!
Ken Ham (not verified) on Mon, 05/31/2010 - 11:03WorksForMe™!
Performance
Geoff (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 13:27Same here - KDE4 runs fine on about a dozen machines that I administer - yup, including a netbook.
Still doesn't explain why
e-d0uble (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 22:51Still doesn't explain why kde3.5 flies on the same system and kde4 doesn't.. Even with the stupid "effects" off.
Da Blog
fatbuttlarry (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 06:31I find it very entertaining that Slashdot-ers are using your blog post as a forum for praise and complaints around KDE.
I'd like to add to the praise and complaints by saying:
1. First reason I use KDE because it doesn't require me to open gconf to remap my "show desktop" icon. In fact, most key mappings can be remapped by right-clicking. This is an excellent reason to use a desktop environment: Customization.
2. Second reason is the idea of Right Click --> Properties on ANY icon. Other desktops have different behavior depending on where the icon is located, and that makes it hard to learn how to make your own icon.
3. Third reason is because it looks cool.
4. Fourth reason is to have arguing ammunition with friends.
Thanks for the early screenshots. I'm not a KDE fanboy. I simply use whatever works and for some things, that's KDE.
Yeah
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 06:09As always, by devs for devs, they'll never give a s**t about an end user. So you can keep your *nix, I'm back with Windows and am staying this time.
Uhhh, ok, a pre-release isn't
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 10:17Uhhh, ok, a pre-release isn't being sold to end-users like it's a finished product. And this is a problem.....how? *sees comment about the poster being a Windows user* Ahhh, I understand now. If you need something unreliable to keep you happy, I'm sure Windows will be just right.
> Uhhh, ok, a pre-release
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 23:19> Uhhh, ok, a pre-release isn't being sold to end-users like it's a finished product. And this is a problem.....how?
It is a problem because win users are accustomed to be fed early betas as finished OS- See vista.
:)
My mum uses linux: change the
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 10:03My mum uses linux: change the icon name to internet and email and she's happy, I get a lot less technical support phone calls. Have you even TRY using KDE?!
That makes no sense. You
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 07:07That makes no sense. You don't have to be a "dev" to use the KDE desktop. If you want to equate your computer with a media player, then you should probably go with Windows.
Text rendering...
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 04:55The font itself looks like it might work for an UI, but the way FreeType is being used to render it here is an atrocity. The shapes look very uneven in thickness, probably as a result of the font's built-in hinting being used with grayscale anti-aliasing (and/or bad gamma correction).
The hinting instructions in most fonts are handled just fine by FreeType's bytecode interpreter, but they were meant for 1-bit rendering where you need to warp the letters' shapes to match individual pixels as closely as possible to get somewhat readable text below 20 pixel sizes, not this kind of anti-aliasing.
IMO even FreeType's autohinter looks better a lot of the time - it's a bit blurry, sure, however at least it's consistent and doesn't mutilate the font's overall look as much as the font bytecode does.
Other than that, KDE is starting to look nice.
Been using KDE 4.4 since it came out
Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 04:52Not sure what all the whining is about - I switched to KDE 4.4 when it came out - it is now mature, stable, and genuinely magnificent! (I'm typing this on Kubuntu 10.04 right now...) You can make it as simple or complicated as you want with minimal configuration. You can make it bright or dark with a mouse click by selecting Air or Oxygen as your base theme. Changing the DPI and font size actually works well. Microsoft and Apple will be copying features for years.
Keep up the great work, and I can't wait for 4.5!